Wednesday, February 8, 2017

Inventive indexing

Been a while since I posted an entry in this category:
Margaret Fair Caren, appears in the 1871 census for Selkirk in the Ancestry transcriptions.
She is Margaret FAIRBAIRN nee WATERS, (deserted) wife of Angus FAIRBAIRN Vocalist of the previous post, living with her parents at Newark Cottages.

Tuesday, February 7, 2017

Angus FAIRBAIRN, Vocalist

Tried to post this to the RootsWeb Fairbairn Message board but it wouldn't post, and sent it to the Mailing list, more out of curiousity to see whether or not either/both were still operating given the ups and downs of RootsWeb over the last few months ( or longer).

The below investigation was prompted by a posting on the Facebook Fairbairn Family group about Angus Fairbairn the Eminent Scottish Vocalist, performing in Barrie, Ontario
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Can anyone prove, or disprove, my theory that Angus FAIRBAIRN, of the "Fairbairn Family of Scottish Vocalists" performing in Boston by 1878 is actually James Angus FAIRBAIRN son of Thomas FAIRBAIRN and Catherine ANGUS?

Evidence for the prosecution:
  • James Angus is shown as "Vocalist" on the 1852 bap. entry for son James George b. Newark, Selkirk;
  • 1851 census shows James (railway signalman) and wife Margaret with a dtr Jessie b. 1849 (Moncrieff Tunnell, Forteviot Perthshire).
    Which Jessie is not with Margaret in 1861
  • That 1861 census shows Margaret as married, FAIRBAIRN, with her parents (WATERS) and with her three sons, but no husband, at  Newark Cottages, Selkirk. 
  • This 1849 Jessie fits the age and birthplace of the Jessie dtr of Angus in 1861 with Angus and "wife" Mary Fairbairn in Greenwich, Kent
    Which census shows:
    FAIRBAIRN (indexed as FAIRBURN): Angus 36 scottish vocalist b. SCT; wife Mary 28  b. Middlesex; Sister-in-law Elizabeth ROBERTS wid. 36 Professor of Music b. Middlesex; Children: Jessie  12 b. SCT; Elizth 4 b. Middlesex; Mary A 2 b. Kent; Niece: Maria ROBERTS 7 b. Devonshire
    I believe Mary and Elizabeth are nee BENNETT but cannot find a marriage between Angus FAIRBAIRN and Mary BENNETT.

Throw in:
  • James Angus birth/bap. entry at Kirknewton is dated 15 Apr 1823 - about the right day, right month as shown on the 
  • death cert. of Angus FAIRBAIRN Vocalist, in Massachusetts (cert. #4622 for 30 Jun 1887 shows Angus F FAIRBAIRN as 65y 2 m 16 days, male, marr., died/ resid. 10 Humphrey Sq, b. SCT to Thomas and Catharine, both b. SCT; Buried Forest Hills)

What's a year between genealogists?
Particularly when data for Angus ranges from 1822 (dth cert)  to 1825 (1861) to 1830 (1880)
  • An 1887 death also explains actual wife Margaret changing from "married" but with no husband in the 1881 census, to widowed in the 1891 census.


Convinced?

Anyone with any sign of James Angus beyond the birth of son James George in Newark, Selkirk  in 1852?

Update:
An obituary was subsequently found that tied Angus Fairbairn the Scottish Vocalist dying 1887 in Dorchester, Massachusetts to his coming from "about Galashiels" which has fully convinced me that James Angus last seen at Newark, Selkirkshire is one and the same person as Angus.

The obit is rather damning as to his abilities however.




Friday, January 6, 2017

Small steps...

As mentioned in the last post it would be good if the Fairbairn Project could determine when the matching Haplogroup I1 lines diverged.
Perhaps we're all ancient ELLIOTs after all?
Do remember that the ELLIOTs in the FAIRBAIRN project are a very very small subset of the overall ELLIOT project.

Three BigY tests were ordered during the recent sales, all in Lineage 1e and believed to be descended from John & Bessie (FLINT) FAIRBAIRN (who married about 1728 Melrose, Roxburghshire).

There are hints that the first is nearly completed processing as a couple of BigY match emails have been received, even though the dashboard for the kit (F-16) shows "awaiting results".

Although the Haplogroup on his dashboard hasn't yet been changed from I-M253, his Haplotree/SNPs does however now show he is positive for
> Z141 > FGC22406 > Y7277
which YFull.com has at:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y7277/
a branch it shows in v5.01 of their I1 tree as forming 3300 ybp, TMRCA 2200 ybp (years before present, "present" = 1950).
Intriguing that the only three countries listed against those already analyzed are TSI, Italy and Hungary - but then the most youthful listed subbranch has a TMRCA (time to most recent common ancestor) estimated at 1500 ybp (ie around 450AD) so quite a way back from 1728.

We had already assumed the Z141 level from the prior SNP testing of our I1 group guinea-pig (F-17) who had tested positive for Z141 - so that branch was assumed to apply to all in the group.
He was also negative for two of the then known downstream sub groups of: F2642 and Z2535.
At which time specific SNP testing had ended.
No SNP packs or BigY were available at that time - how fast things change in this world.

Hopefully with this, and the remaining two results, once all analyzed at YFull, may create a more recent FAIRBAIRN sub branch.

For any of those in the I1 matching groups of the FAIRBAIRN project, be they FAIRBAIRNs, ELLIOTs or FARRIS or ... , FTDNA do offer both an I1-Z140 SNP pack which would quickly position any of the matching I1 group on the tree under I1-Z140 without the expense of the BigY test, but also without the contribution to science BigY gives.


This SNP pack includes the above FGC22406 sub branch, along with four successive branches.
and individual SNP tests for around this area.


So the more adventurous of you may wish to gamble by simply checking if you too are FGC22406 by ordering an individual SNP.

If you are considering doing BigY in the future - wait, save your pennies and do just that, both of the above would be superfluous.

If you do wish to explore this area of DNA testing please check with either your I1 Haplogroup project or the Fairbairn project administrator before ordering to make sure you are getting an appropriate test for your individual situation.

Monday, November 21, 2016

When did lines diverge?

With the current FamilyTreeDNA sale, the opportunity has been taken to kick start more of an investigation into when assorted lines diverged:

  • The Elliots and the Fairbairns who so closely match at yDNA STR testing (the 37/67/111 marker tests)
  • Lineage 1e from the others in haplogroup I1


    just for starters (yes I'm biased, my FAIRBAIRN branch is Lineage 1e).

    The test used here is BigY (currently $50 off on sale with further $$ off vouchers arriving weekly that may apply - I've heard some were for $100 off, the most I've found were $75).
    It is only available if the male concerned has already tested his yDNA, so isn't visible on the normal product page (https://www.familytreedna.com/y-dna-compare.aspx). No re-scrape necessary if sufficient DNA remains in storage.

    This test runs hand in hand with SNP testing, and has an advantage over any SNP packs that FTDNA advertise in that for the latter you are playing catch up all the time as the tree advances, and have to keep re-testing to see if you match the newfound branch.
    For BigY you are helping science as well as your curiousity by leading that charge down the tree to the present day.  As new branches are found, your results are automatically updated, at least on YFull.com who do further analysis of the results for a one-off fee.

    From prior individual SNP testing before BigY became available we know that the guinea pig tester for the FAIRBAIRNs, and by implication the group, had made it down to I-Z141 - which is equivalent to the I-Z140 one of the ELLIOT kits has tested for - https://yfull.com/tree/I-Z140/ - formed 4,300 years before present (present = 1950).
    We must be able to do better than that.
    One group down from the I-Z140 link above has a Time to Most Recent Common Ancestor of 50 years, yes that's 50 !

    As for all DNA testing, it cannot be done in isolation, it needs comparisons.
    Any takers from the ELLIOTs?
    From other groupings in the I1 lineages?
    We do need at least one other BigY test within the group to compare against to get full value from this.

    A new set of vouchers will be arriving soon, so if interested, check out the FAIRBAIRN project activity feed to see if any are available.

    As an example of what can happen, take a look at the Runciman project diary where we were trying to determine how long ago the four matching lines diverged. Question not yet answered, as they were still on the same branch estimated at around 550 ybp. We have hopes that another test will revise that further.

     

    Tuesday, October 25, 2016

    Fairbairn atDNA comparisons

    The Fairbairn atDNA page has been updated to include more analysis of how much detectable dna has survived between assorted lines.
    At this stage it only includes descendants of John & Bessie (FLINT) FAIRBAIRN, but other lines can be included.
    Perhaps you've hit some particularly interesting comparisons across lines only known to be distantly yDNA connected via the FAIRBAIRN line?
    As it says on the page, all it takes for that to happen is to let me know the GEDMatch ids of the kits concerned.
    Or better still:
    - run the (free) Multiple Kit Analysis and the 3D chromosome browser tools GEDMatch provides for the kit numbers concerned,
    - save each result as a complete web page and
    - send me either a link to the pages on eg Dropbox, or the zipped up pages.
    You may care to also provide your own labels for the kits listed, rather than use the kit names.

    The grid of total shared cMs below is now attached to John FAIRBAIRN's page on WikiTree as well.

    Triangulations of the segments involved is not yet complete to check, if possible, that they are indeed Fairbairn/Flint DNA.

    Sunday, July 5, 2015

    Fairbairn/Elliot/Irwin conundrum

    Has anyone advanced their research on finding where the little cluster of ELLIOT and IRWIN close DNA matches to the haplogroup I FAIRBAIRNs comes from?
    Some of the known information is documented/linked to on the supplementary project pages, http://dnasurnames.info/lineages/spFAIRBAIRNLineages.htm
    where there's a page about the ELLIOT(T) matches.
    As  each DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA now has the capability for a message group for that project, why not check it out and add your theories/thoughts/research to the thread on this conundrum there.
    Pool your knowledge, never know what you'll learn.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/fairbairn/activity-feed
    You have to be logged in to your kit to post/view the activity feed.

    Sunday, February 15, 2015

    atDNA comes up trumps

    Another set of FamilyFinder results in from the family of Robert FAIRBAIRN in Richmond Ontario  by about 1829 (married Kate SCOTT who is reputed to have died at sea en route to Canada abt 1828).
    And yes, more matches between the families of Archibald and Alison (CROSSER) FAIRBAIRN, and with the prior test participant, and also to the more distant 7th cousins, descendants of Robert & Agnes (LANDRETH) FAIRBAIRN.
    We look to have proven the theory of where Robert belongs - a previously unknown son of Archibald and Alison.

    The DNA Lineage pages have all been refreshed, and in particular the Fairbairn FamilyFinder page as been updated to include an updated chromosome map of segments of dna shared by descendants of John and Bessie (FLINT) FAIRBAIRN who married in Melrose, Roxburghshire around 1726.

    Click to enlarge


    There's an intriguing side effect to our increased number of FamilyFinder tests.
    We now have matches between descendants of Archibald and Alison (CROSSER) FAIRBAIRN and descendants of Robert and Elizabeth (CROSBIE) FAIRBAIRN.
    yDNA indicates that although these families are indeed connected, their common ancestor was well  back into the 1600s, which makes it seem unlikely that the link is their respective FAIRBAIRNs.
    More work needed.