tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-79317302316446246842024-03-06T19:46:48.912+13:00Calling All FairbairnsFor all interested in the FAIRBAIRN (and variants) surname - this blog is the project diary for both the One Name Study and the DNA Project.FairbairnDNAAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07951789071332510117noreply@blogger.comBlogger327125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-75016422354194957192023-02-10T15:59:00.002+13:002023-02-10T20:30:50.971+13:00Discover!Some of you will already know that all those who tested BigY will have been assigned their specific branch on the tree of mankind. Which branch is automatically updated as more tests are done and new branches created. BigY is the test that keeps on giving.The recent Discover tool introduced by FamilyTreeDNA gives you information on your individual branch, along with a Time tree.More LornaHenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05199921559356749656noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-58767085672438716242023-02-10T15:58:00.005+13:002023-03-22T19:10:02.130+13:00Wanted: Cockburnspath Fairbairn line tester(s)Most of the links below take you to WikiTree - all help in documenting descendants welcome.It is a free, collaborative tree, great privacy controls for the living, and very DNA friendly.Whatever test you have taken, IF you are comfortable being in an online tree, connected to your ancestors, then join WikiTree, input enough of your family to connect up to any already there, and show what DNA LornaHenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05199921559356749656noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-35045318623445197042022-12-03T13:20:00.004+13:002022-12-03T21:16:06.644+13:00BigY result updatesDo keep an eye on the Guild of One Name Studies Histories section where snapshots of revisions to the yDNA BigY DNA grouping results are posted every so often, the latest being as at Dec 2022.We are gradually increasing our knowledge of which lines are more closely related.Any Fairbairn who has DNA tested is welcome to join the FamilyTreeDNA Fairbairn Surname Project.You can upload your test fromLornaHenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05199921559356749656noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-67259181215002567172018-12-01T22:01:00.000+13:002018-12-01T22:01:08.437+13:00Looking like we are Fairbairns, not Elliotts after all????The Fairbairn Surname DNA project is gradually plugging away at upgrading different lines of the Haplogroup I1 Fairbairns and their matches to BigY.
One of the benefits of this, especially when the resulting files are added to yFull.com, is that timescale estimates are added to the branches being created on the yDNA tree of mankind.
A snapshot of the resulting tree as at Nov 2018 is on theLornaHenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05199921559356749656noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-2855287885966993302018-03-14T21:35:00.001+13:002018-03-14T21:35:13.690+13:00Those dratted 404 Page Notfound messagesApologies for an increased number of 404 page not found messages both from links on this blog and any lying around the web pointing to what used to be the Lineages sub-section of my One Name Study pages.
The latter site has been rationalised to move the old Analysis section into the Histories section of the Guild of One Name Studies Fairbairn pages and shift the old Lineages sub-section up a LornaHenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05199921559356749656noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-25130553261395658012017-07-17T20:19:00.000+12:002017-07-17T20:19:59.203+12:00Are we Fairbairn or Elliott?Donations are currently being called for to add to our knowledge of when the matching set of Fairbairn and Elliott results diverged on the yDNA tree of mankind - somewhere down from I-Z140 which branch formed about 4,100 years before present (ybp - present being 1950)
https://yfull.com/tree/I-Z140/
Summary:
We now know that a sub group of the I1 haplogroup matching Fairbairns (lineage 1e) form FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-4660569687218410412017-05-18T16:47:00.000+12:002017-05-28T20:48:09.335+12:00Update for I1 Haplogroup FAIRBAIRNsWith one of the recent BigY sales at FamilyTreeDNA, the opportunity was taken to test four of the Lineage 1e FAIRBAIRNs, and analyse their results at yFull.com.
The latest version (5.04) of the yFull tree now shows that this has resulted in the creation of a new branch of the tree underneath I-Y7277 (which was estimated by yFull as having been formed 3400 ybp TMRCA 3100 ybp) which is where they FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-50467968883521350392017-04-21T14:50:00.000+12:002017-04-21T14:50:11.477+12:00DNA SalesCheck out the overall DNASurnames blog for full details of the FamilyTreeDNA sale prices for DNA Day, and a link to sales at other sites.
Of particular interest for the Fairbairn Surname DNA project are those for
FamilyFinder - $20 off to $59 US
BigY down to $425US
SNP Packs down to $89
yDNA 37 to $129
yDNA 67 to $209
Please check with your project admin before rushing off into SNP Pack testingFairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-87376861658136332882017-02-08T11:26:00.000+13:002017-02-08T11:26:17.066+13:00Inventive indexingBeen a while since I posted an entry in this category:
Margaret Fair Caren, appears in the 1871 census for Selkirk in the Ancestry transcriptions.
She is Margaret FAIRBAIRN nee WATERS, (deserted) wife of Angus FAIRBAIRN Vocalist of the previous post, living with her parents at Newark Cottages.FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-55901851936285885752017-02-07T23:50:00.000+13:002018-03-15T00:26:06.953+13:00Angus FAIRBAIRN, Vocalist
Tried to post this to the RootsWeb Fairbairn Message board but it wouldn't post, and sent it to the Mailing list, more out of curiousity to see whether or not either/both were still operating given the ups and downs of RootsWeb over the last few months ( or longer).
The below investigation was prompted by a posting on the Facebook Fairbairn Family group about Angus Fairbairn the Eminent FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-90710933048598306802017-01-06T18:18:00.000+13:002017-07-17T14:19:17.894+12:00Small steps...As mentioned in the last post it would be good if the Fairbairn Project could determine when the matching Haplogroup I1 lines diverged.
Perhaps we're all ancient ELLIOTs after all?
Do remember that the ELLIOTs in the FAIRBAIRN project are a very very small subset of the overall ELLIOT project.
Three BigY tests were ordered during the recent sales, all in Lineage 1e and believed to be descended FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-40169518027050192442016-11-21T14:46:00.001+13:002016-11-21T14:46:29.545+13:00When did lines diverge?With the current FamilyTreeDNA sale, the opportunity has been taken to kick start more of an investigation into when assorted lines diverged:
The Elliots and the Fairbairns who so closely match at yDNA STR testing (the 37/67/111 marker tests)
Lineage 1e from the others in haplogroup I1
just for starters (yes I'm biased, my FAIRBAIRN branch is Lineage 1e).
The test used here is BigY (FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-18147273211712271802016-10-25T12:12:00.003+13:002016-10-25T12:12:52.204+13:00Fairbairn atDNA comparisonsThe Fairbairn atDNA page has been updated to include more analysis of how much detectable dna has survived between assorted lines.
At this stage it only includes descendants of John & Bessie (FLINT) FAIRBAIRN, but other lines can be included.
Perhaps you've hit some particularly interesting comparisons across lines only known to be distantly yDNA connected via the FAIRBAIRN line?
As it says FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-38727198769085786432015-07-05T10:21:00.000+12:002018-03-19T12:13:44.129+13:00Fairbairn/Elliot/Irwin conundrumHas anyone advanced their research on finding where the little cluster of ELLIOT and IRWIN close DNA matches to the haplogroup I FAIRBAIRNs comes from?
Some of the known information is documented/linked to on the supplementary project pages, http://dnasurnames.info/spFAIRBAIRNLineages.htm
where there's a page about the ELLIOT(T) matches.
As each DNA project at FamilyTreeDNA now has the FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com2tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-36660518309990896392015-02-15T22:43:00.000+13:002015-02-16T01:46:16.950+13:00atDNA comes up trumpsAnother set of FamilyFinder results in from the family of Robert FAIRBAIRN in Richmond Ontario by about 1829 (married Kate SCOTT who is reputed to have died at sea en route to Canada abt 1828).
And yes, more matches between the families of Archibald and Alison (CROSSER) FAIRBAIRN, and with the prior test participant, and also to the more distant 7th cousins, descendants of Robert & FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-66436336677391432682014-12-31T11:39:00.001+13:002018-03-15T00:28:40.251+13:002015 - sale - FFinder "find"
If you want a great kickstart to the year, I have some remaining coupon codes for further $$ off the current sale prices for anyone interested.
The coupons range from $5 or $10 off any test (which could be used to transfer ancestry tests to FTDNA and unlock all your matches) through $5 or $10 off FamilyFinder , Y-DNA 37/67/111, mtDNAFull Sequence to $100 off BigY.
Sale and coupons expire FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-41792177655925418652014-12-09T12:02:00.000+13:002014-12-09T12:02:21.652+13:00Check out the sale pricesBecoming curious about your origins?
Check out the FamilyTreeDNA Discounts going until 31st December.
Before jumping in and ordering a Y-DNA test, do however check to see whether or not your FAIRBAIRN line is already represented by a direct line male as there is little point in close relatives (say 1st to 3rd) both testing y_DNA.
Distant cousins, yes as that adds confirmation to the derived dna FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-78704119953779216162014-08-23T13:57:00.001+12:002014-08-23T14:02:39.300+12:00New Y-DNA37 matchesThe notifications over the last couple of days from FamilyTreeDNA for Y_DNA37 matches to many of our project members are from two new tested people who have tested Y-DNA37.
Neither are currently in the FAIRBAIRN project, neither are surnamed FAIRBAIRN or a variant thereof, both are shown as Genetic Distances of 3 or 4, at least to the kits checked.
One however may be adding to our group of FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-71849921166822434562014-06-21T16:26:00.000+12:002014-06-21T16:26:02.623+12:00Still Z141We have not yet managed to find which sub-branch of the I Haplogroup tree that the Lineage 1 FAIRBAIRNs belong to.
Our SNP test for F2642 came back negative.
Comparing the ISOGG haplogroup I tree and that on FamilyTreeDNA for our SNP testing guineapig, John (F-17), we appear to not have that many options left.
Patience called for to reach much more forward to present day down this branch.FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-90004510752275155792014-04-28T01:01:00.001+12:002014-04-28T01:01:13.123+12:00Continuing to explore the Y-SNP tree of mankindWith the current DNA Day/Arbor day sale at FamilyTree DNA we are taking the opportunity to try and find the next step down towards the present on the I1 haplogroup tree.
You may recall that our selected representative, John F-17, had advanced the matching group of FAIRBAIRNs down the I1 tree to Z141+ (was then I1a2a1a but appears now to be I1d...) but was negative for Z2535, one of the next FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-63271613718701773652014-04-25T01:18:00.000+12:002018-03-15T00:29:54.513+13:00Coldstream FAIRBAIRNsThe One Name Study lineage pages have been refreshed.
Many of the so-called "changes" shown in the latest change indexes are probably cosmetic rather than earth shattering discoveries and many trees will have new twigs.
One update that may lead somewhere is that for John (marr. Jane WADDELL) FAIRBAIRN of Coldstream.
David shared a cemetery transcription, which tied together with a FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-21295778539519391982013-08-13T13:33:00.000+12:002013-08-13T14:34:56.171+12:00Summary DNA resultsThe Summary DNA results page on the WorldFamilyNetwork was included in the recent updates to the related FAIRBAIRN pages (One Name Study and DNA pages).
The summary result page now includes the matching FARRIS representatives, who appear to create a bridge between Lineage 1a and all their matches sharing marker 391 = 10 but marker 520 = 20, and Lineage 1e who have 391 = 9 and 520 = 21.
It also FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-52435289176752435642013-08-12T14:24:00.000+12:002018-03-15T00:31:09.455+13:00Fairbairn or Fairburn?The Fairbairn One Name Study Lineage pages have been updated to reflect any updates over the last month or so (check the Latest Changes index for the people changed but that wont necessarily reflect any changes to descendant charts.)
One reason for this activity was to include a working assumption for the ancestors/relations of Robert FAIRBAIRN, the Thames waterman, whose descendant's dna FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-22365759161585980002013-07-13T15:51:00.003+12:002013-08-13T14:37:42.664+12:00Match notificationsLooks like the results are starting to roll in from the Family Tree DNA upgrade sale a while ago.
One of our newer members upgraded from Y-DNA12 to Y-DNA67 and is now 25/25 with the Lineage 1 modal, ie all of Lineage I Haplogroup I1, and 24/25 with lineage 1e.
The next panel of results should enable us to get more of an idea on where to place his family of Thames watermen while we await his full FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7931730231644624684.post-15390584972869311582013-07-10T15:38:00.000+12:002013-07-10T15:38:29.586+12:00FARRIS ?A number of you will have received DNA Match email notifications today.
Looks like a FARRIS family from Virginia are starting to show up as excellent match with two representatives so far.
The two closest matches seem to be 65/67, but oddly enough they are to the lineage 1e member whose markers differ most, and to the modal over all the Lineage 1 matches.
Only one of the kits has any FairbairnAdminhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08554439970128996509noreply@blogger.com0