The post on the Kelso Dispensary re-activated contact with a researcher of all Agnes FAIRBAIRNs of around that time, and Fiona has provided some snippets from family correspondence which are being worked through and should shed some light on the relationships between the Mellerstain Mill and Girnick Smailholm FAIRBAIRNs.
This has led to an update to the patriarchs page to clarify that the James and Margaret (TAIT) of Girnick (Smailholm) are a separate family to that of James and Margaret (TAIT) of Haddington, despite what several trees out on the net seem to think.
Those interested in the details and my conclusions should examine the marriage or Rachel FAIRBAIRN to George Wilson PEATTIE in Edinburgh St Cuthberts in 1849 which shows her as the 3rd surviving daughter of the late James FAIRBAIRN of Haddington, candlemaker and tobacconist, which is rather a drastic occupation and location change from a farmer in Smailholm, and would no doubt come as a bit of a surprise to two of Elspeth, Margaret, Helen or Isabel, all of whom survived beyond 1849, and would be Rachel's elder sisters if she belonged to the Smailholm family.
That and the fact that it is unlikely the family would have two Margaret's when the first is found to have survived and married.
I believe Margaret of Haddington, to be the deceased sister of Rachel as Catherine and Marion are both to be found in the 1851 census.
Does anyone know who the Haddington James is? Not yet researched. In addition to these 4 daughters, there was also an 1829 Robert.
For all interested in the FAIRBAIRN (and variants) surname - this blog is the project diary for both the One Name Study and the DNA Project.
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Sunday, January 23, 2011
Friday, December 10, 2010
James & Isabel (TAIT) of Morriston
ONS page for James FAIRBAIRN of Morriston updated, and one for wife Isabel TAIT added.
A message about their son, or possible son, Ralph in Birmingham on the Rootsweb FAIRBAIRN message board points to this James.
A message about their son, or possible son, Ralph in Birmingham on the Rootsweb FAIRBAIRN message board points to this James.
Friday, December 3, 2010
Thick and fast
Well those last result panels came in thick and fast.
Stewart(F-38)'s Y-DNA67 marker results are now in, albeit without a predicted haplogroup as yet, although we can beat FamilyTreeDNA's lab to that one - I1.
He has an exact match with Robert (F-34), the line only GD 1 to the modal for Lineage 1 overall, and that on a faster mutating marker to boot.
Only one marker different is John (F-17), and they constitute a growing little sub group with CDYb = 39 instead of the modal 38.
Summary and supplementary result pages have been updated (F-38 now re-positioned to group matches), and the Patriarchs page rearranged to group these lineages together, ie Stewart(F-38)'s James and Isabel (TAIT), Robert(F-34)'s Alexander and Isabella (ATCHESON) and John(F-17)'s John and Jessie (JOHNSTON).
The related One Name Study pages for this line are gradually being added - some links may be broken between all of the above sections - checking is still underway.
Stewart(F-38)'s Y-DNA67 marker results are now in, albeit without a predicted haplogroup as yet, although we can beat FamilyTreeDNA's lab to that one - I1.
He has an exact match with Robert (F-34), the line only GD 1 to the modal for Lineage 1 overall, and that on a faster mutating marker to boot.
Only one marker different is John (F-17), and they constitute a growing little sub group with CDYb = 39 instead of the modal 38.
Summary and supplementary result pages have been updated (F-38 now re-positioned to group matches), and the Patriarchs page rearranged to group these lineages together, ie Stewart(F-38)'s James and Isabel (TAIT), Robert(F-34)'s Alexander and Isabella (ATCHESON) and John(F-17)'s John and Jessie (JOHNSTON).
The related One Name Study pages for this line are gradually being added - some links may be broken between all of the above sections - checking is still underway.
Friday, October 15, 2010
Stub added to results summary
Results page updated to include a link from our new participant (F-38) to his paper trail, the family of James and Isabel (TAIT) of Legerwood.
With a John documented as being at Moriston in 1784, and James and Isabel's eldest known son being a John, my conclusion is that the 1784 John is James' father.
In addition, but rather more speculatively, based on the rather tenuous links that descendants of James and Isabel were millers (in Dalkeith), there may be a leap of not to much faith to this John/James father/son being the John of Mellerstain Mill 1763-6, including a son James baptised in 1765.
John may, or may not, be the one married to Agnes GIBSON 1749, Legerwood - only evidence being James 2nd known daughter being an Agnes. But if so, the rather confusing stone in Earlstoun for the family may be relevant - oh for a wonderfully clear close up photograph of it to see if any of the blanks and puzzling dates/relationships can be clarified.
With a John documented as being at Moriston in 1784, and James and Isabel's eldest known son being a John, my conclusion is that the 1784 John is James' father.
In addition, but rather more speculatively, based on the rather tenuous links that descendants of James and Isabel were millers (in Dalkeith), there may be a leap of not to much faith to this John/James father/son being the John of Mellerstain Mill 1763-6, including a son James baptised in 1765.
John may, or may not, be the one married to Agnes GIBSON 1749, Legerwood - only evidence being James 2nd known daughter being an Agnes. But if so, the rather confusing stone in Earlstoun for the family may be relevant - oh for a wonderfully clear close up photograph of it to see if any of the blanks and puzzling dates/relationships can be clarified.
Tuesday, October 5, 2010
A few Patriarch tweaks
The Patriarchs Page has been updated with a few tweaks to the outline descendant charts for:
James & Isabel (TAIT) FAIRBAIRN of West Morriston, Legerwood and Dalkeith, Midlothian
and for
John & Magdalen (BO) FAIRBAIRN of Lidgatehead.
It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that James is the son of John and Magdalen.
James & Isabel (TAIT) FAIRBAIRN of West Morriston, Legerwood and Dalkeith, Midlothian
and for
John & Magdalen (BO) FAIRBAIRN of Lidgatehead.
It is not beyond the bounds of possibility that James is the son of John and Magdalen.
Friday, October 1, 2010
West Morriston and Carrolside Mill James
The Patriarchs page has been updated to expand on the outline tree for the James FAIRBAIRNs of Legerwood.
Further investigation, and a lead from a Wikipedia article on the educator and financier John FAIRBAIRN of Cape Town showed that they had to be separate James.
The Wikipedia article quoted John's biography as saying his parents were James and Agnes (BLACK) FAIRBAIRN, and that John was born 1794, Carrolside Mill, Legerwood.
Which led me to the marriage in Lauder (banns also Westruther) of James of Westruther, and Agnes BRACK of Lauder, and also a couple more children for their family, including a William in 1802, so the families of the James of Carrolside and the James & Isabel (TAIT) of West Morriston did overlap after all.
Representatives of both lines wanted, although, it does rather look like John of Cape Town's line has "daughtered out".
Further investigation, and a lead from a Wikipedia article on the educator and financier John FAIRBAIRN of Cape Town showed that they had to be separate James.
The Wikipedia article quoted John's biography as saying his parents were James and Agnes (BLACK) FAIRBAIRN, and that John was born 1794, Carrolside Mill, Legerwood.
Which led me to the marriage in Lauder (banns also Westruther) of James of Westruther, and Agnes BRACK of Lauder, and also a couple more children for their family, including a William in 1802, so the families of the James of Carrolside and the James & Isabel (TAIT) of West Morriston did overlap after all.
Representatives of both lines wanted, although, it does rather look like John of Cape Town's line has "daughtered out".
Tuesday, September 28, 2010
Legerwood: West Morriston & Carrolside Miln
Summary Patriarchs page has been updated to include an outline pedigree for some of the family of James & Isabel (TAIT) FAIRBAIRN of West Morriston.
James may, or may not, be the same James having children slightly earlier, whilst living at Carrolside Miln.
Representative wanted.
James may, or may not, be the same James having children slightly earlier, whilst living at Carrolside Miln.
Representative wanted.
Monday, September 13, 2010
Legerwood family
A brief outline descendant chart for the Legerwood family of James & Isobel (TAIT) FAIRBAIRN has been added to the identified family groups page, along with some comments/speculation about whether this James, of West Morriston, is one and the same as the James of Carolside Mill.
PS subsequent finding of an 1802 baptism to James & Agnes (BRACK) of Carrolside Mill put paid to that theory, their son John will be added to the notables index at a later stage.
PS subsequent finding of an 1802 baptism to James & Agnes (BRACK) of Carrolside Mill put paid to that theory, their son John will be added to the notables index at a later stage.
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